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  If you wrote book about JW's what title would you give it?

  by LogCon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many, after leaving or being cast out of 'the society,' have felt so strongly so as to write a book.

  some well thought out and good reading.. my questions are the following:.

  if you were to write such a book what title would you give it ?.

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  "My Mother Was Is a Dope"
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  Hell or no hell

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about a year ago i had an exchange of emails with an elder of a congregation where all my jw relatives attend.

  i asked him all kinds of questions regarding blood, 607, shunning, evolution, higher education.

  as anticipated, he either had no answer or provided an evasive one.

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  Nathan Natas

  Sorry if I "harshed your mellow," never_a_jw.

  I was raised a JW from the age of 7-ish, was a pioneer and a Ministerial Servant in my congregation and gave the 1 hour public talk on Sunday. Then my brains kicked in; today I'm an atheist and hold no fondness for parasitic metaphysicians.

  ...but I can speak JW if the situation demands it. Perhaps this is one such occasion, eh?
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  Hell or no hell

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about a year ago i had an exchange of emails with an elder of a congregation where all my jw relatives attend.

  i asked him all kinds of questions regarding blood, 607, shunning, evolution, higher education.

  as anticipated, he either had no answer or provided an evasive one.

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  Hell no.

  There is no "spirit realm" subdivided into parcels called Heaven or Hell. There are no "spiritual beings" called gods, angels or demons.

  You have no "spiritual organ" called a soul. When you are born, you begin your one-and-only experience of life, and when you die it is over.

  What DOES exist is the human imagination capable of self-deception to disguise some of the harsh reality of existence.

  You're welcome.
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  I was a window washet...

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thete are a lot of derocatory comments sbout witnesses and cleaning windows.

  as a former window cleaner i can say:-.

  a. i started my self employment at 17.. b. i built the round with my own initiative.. c. i was soon making 4 times the average hourly wage.. d. i was afraid of heights, but as the round grew i employed 2 people.. e. it exspanded to gardening painting and decorating ect, ect,.

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  NH&H said, " Never cared for school Nathan."

  I would never have guessed!
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  Do you pray over your meals? If so why? If not, when did you stop and why?

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to answer my question, no i do not pray over meals anymore exept for when i am with other jws i do a 15 second head bow for appearances sake.

  i just came to the realization god had nothing to do with whether i ate or not.

  many believers are starving right now whilst many non-believers are eating like kings.. also why should god give me food while he lets little children in dprk concentration camps starve to death.

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  I pray that my taster doesn't die.
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  Angels and Women - A review

  by LivingTheDream in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i first found and read this book as a young man during the early 1980s while visiting the bethel library.

  this library was located at the world headquarters of jehovah's witnesses in brooklyn new york.

  this book exists in its form now because of the interest that religion's leaders had in the original work seola, from where this book was adapted.

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  Jim Rizolli was a fellow apostate on another discussion board a few years ago, and he told about how an elderly JW woman he knew gace him a CASE ofthe old books. He digitized it and sells a reprint in hard-copy or kindle on Amazon.

  http://www.amazon.com/Angels-Women-Jim-Rizoli/dp/0595005160/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1392841788&sr=1-1&keywords=angels+and+women
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  I was a window washet...

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thete are a lot of derocatory comments sbout witnesses and cleaning windows.

  as a former window cleaner i can say:-.

  a. i started my self employment at 17.. b. i built the round with my own initiative.. c. i was soon making 4 times the average hourly wage.. d. i was afraid of heights, but as the round grew i employed 2 people.. e. it exspanded to gardening painting and decorating ect, ect,.

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  Good for you!

  Now you can return to school and learn to spell!
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  Where can I get a copy of the finished mystery without paying an arm and leg.

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where do you guys find old tower books and material other than flea bay and their outragous prices?

  looking for some of the old books..

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  Nathan Natas

  The "Bible Students" still exist today, and they still believe everything that Chuck Russell taught. The have the "present truth" versions of all Pastor Chuck's books available online and in hard copy at very low prices.

  If you are looking for VINTAGE Chuck Russell prognostications, eBay and patience are your best allies. Sometimes people dump "estate sale" WT libraries without knowing that some items have collector's value because of the aged-in-the-bottle bullshit they contain.

  If you are ambulatory, you might want to wobble in to some of your local charity outlet stores if you have some in your area. They can also be a source of "estate sale" libraries, because Jehovah's Witnesses, contrary to their prophecies have not stopped dying - but of course they have the hope of a ressurrection. (fat chance!)
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  Jamie Coots, a Kentucky-based Pentecostal preacher is Dead of Snake Bite

  by Scott77 in

  1. social
  2. current

  "...jamie coots lived and died consistent with his faith and his death will only inspire more people to obey an instruction from god in the gospel of mark that they shall take up serpents, said professor ralph hood, of the university of tennessee at chattanooga..." http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/17/jamie-coots-snake-handling-pastor-martyr?cmp=fb_us .

  that jamie coots photograph: ap photo/courtesy national geographic channel.

  apparently, he was bitted while handling a poisonous snake.

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  I encourage all who wish to handle snakes as a demonstration of their faith to do so as often as possible.

  This is the only known cure for this stupid stupid meme.
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  War over preparing for WT study

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know that title sounds weird but so is this situation.

  with the following information i'm about to desconspire myself a little bit, but i don't really care since i will simply deny it if any of my elders are lurking here.

  anyway the situation is the following.

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  Nathan Natas

  Did the Watchtower pay you for your balls or did you just give them away?

  You are responsible for allowing yourself to be abused.

  You're an adult, not some naive kid.

  Or did you want silentlambs or someone else to come running to your rescue?

  Maybe next time you log-in you can tell us how you threw the asshole out of your house.